Joan counsels a reader who has met the perfect partner…except for one thing.
A reader asks:
Dear Joan: At 70, I’ve been seeing a man my age for about three months. We meet several times a week and talk almost daily. We have much in common: mutual friends, shared fun, interests and activities we both enjoy. It’s so exciting getting to know him! We’ve slowly been exploring sexually on my timeline, at first just hand holding, hugging, and kissing, and lately enjoying intercourse. It’s wonderful feeling alive and desired again.
Last night he sat me down and told me that because he’s a Christian, he doesn’t feel right having sex with me anymore, because it’s outside of marriage.
I felt like he pulled the rug out from under me. He explained that a sermon at his church a long time ago about sexuality and God’s teachings led to him making a promise to God. He feels guilty about what we’ve been doing together and needs to stop. I was shocked and hurt. I thought we’d finally found a mutual ground of comfort and understanding. And a third marriage isn’t my intention!
I want him to understand that at 70, time is not on our side!
He wants me to watch sermons to understand and come around to his religious beliefs. We grew up in the same religion, but my church was less restrictive, and I don’t hold those views. I want him to understand that at 70, time is not on our side!
As I see it, if we can give each other pleasure and affection at our age, why hold back? Wouldn’t this be the time to enjoy life and all its pleasures with someone you care about? Is there any way to meet in the middle?
He was divorced a few years ago after a very long marriage. I had two long marriages that ended in divorce — one was a cheater, the other a narcissist who threatened my life if I left him. I lost my last lover who died. Hence, no third marriage for me. I put my heart and soul into these three men only to go through the same cycle of love, hurt, damage, grief, self-doubt, recovery, and finally thrive and survive. I just want to enjoy and share life to the fullest with a wonderful man.
My head and heart are at odds. In our short time together, I’ve come to adore this man and was hopeful to find love. I am trying to respect what he is asking me to do, even though I’m not sure what that is. I believe he is looking for a long-term relationship and is willing to put in the effort to see where it goes. But how do I go forward having a relationship with this wonderful man knowing the cuddling, spooning and intimacy are taboo unless we marry, which I do not want to do? My head is spinning and my heart is aching.
– Head vs. Heart
Joan replies:
I understand why you feel your heart and your head are at war. You – on the basis of three important relationships, your own self-knowledge, and decades of lived experience – have cultivated your own set of goals and values. You’re sure you do not want another marriage. You’re also sure that at age 70, there’s precious little time left, and you want that to include intimacy and sexual pleasure.
Yet the man who captured your heart has religious convictions that prohibit the kind of relationship that you want! You’ve only been dating for three months. You’re still in the throes of “new relationship energy” (NRE), that giddy, lustful, falling-in-love stage that changes over time. Yet even with this NRE that you’re both feeling, he is already pulling back from the sex you’ve shared, seeing it as against a religious commitment he made long before he knew you.
Sadly, I don’t think this relationship can work. Sexual compatibility is very important to the success of a relationship, and that includes compatibility of sexual values. As deep as your growing feelings for each other are, you have roadblocks that I don’t see you overcoming without one of you giving up something extremely important. Some things you could try:
Try these:
- Seek ways to work out your differences with the help of a couple’s counselor (an impartial one, not connected to his church). I don’t know if there’s a middle ground that would satisfy both of you.
- Relegate this relationship to the friend zone: a friend without benefits, so to speak. You enjoy each other’s company and the same activities, so that’s a way to stay in each other’s lives. This also leaves you free to find a lover on your own terms, independent of him.
Above all, choose your head over your heart. You’ve only been dating this man for three months, and you’ve had decades to become the authentic person you are. Your heart will heal, and you’ll be able to find someone who is more compatible with your needs, goals, and values. You’ve learned that you can get close to and turned on by a new person. You can take that with you on your path.
YOUR TURN
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Joan Price has been Senior Planet’s “Sex at Our Age” columnist since 2014. She is the author of four self-help books about senior sex, including her award winners: “Naked at Our Age: Talking Out Loud about Senior Sex” and “Sex after Grief: Navigating Your Sexuality after Losing Your Beloved.” Visit Joan’s website and blog for senior sex news, views, tips, and sex toy reviews from a senior perspective. Subscribe to Joan’s free, monthly newsletter.
COMMENTS
17 responses to “Ask Joan: Head vs. Heart”
Joan,
You and Seamus reviewed a vibrator recently that was recommended for both clitoral stimulation and penis stimulation, It cost about $100 and now I can’t find it in the last few months articles anywhere. Any idea of what I am trying to find?
If it was a recent blog post of mine, it was the Volta: https://joanprice.com/2024/09/fun-factory-volta-versatile-vibrator.html
The woman I was in a relationship periodically had guilt because we were having sex. One Sunday morning she heard a sermon which caused her to say “I can’t do this anymore.” I had no interest in being legally married again but we had talked about having a “covenant marriage” with no license from the state. I told her that I was very close to proposing marriage. She said “no, I know you don’t really want to be married.” From that moment on I’ve asked “why do women have to overthink everything?”
“Women” overthink everything? Because one particular woman did? And yet the letter to Joan was from a woman about a man who was overthinking. Misogynist much?
Where were this man’s convictions when they were making love? It bothers me when she says, “He wants me to watch sermons to understand and come around to his religious beliefs.” HE wants HER to COME AROUND TO HIS religious beliefs. He wants her to change. He has not offered to meet her halfway at all. She should take this experience and move on. I am having a similar thing with my husband; he is suddenly reverting to religious convictions that he told me years ago did not matter to him.
This is a very sad story. The male knew in the beginning what his religious reservations were, yet he took advantage of the situation and enjoyed the pleasures of a sexual relationship before he felt a conviction and then decided to put the brakes on. That conversation should have been had at the very beginning.. How many times is he going to break his promise to God at the woman’s expense.
Hello Reader,
Growing old as a senior there’s more to life than sex. Have you ever thought about companionship. Just having someone to communicate with, & exploring compatibility, is better than sex. And I don’t believe in sex before marriage. That is my belief. Putting God first and He will direct your path. Forget about intimacy & work on your religious relationship. Just remember with God all things are possible.
No, no, no. I was brought up in a Christian home and very firmly was taught that even in marriage sex was ONLY for procreation. I learnt when my marriage was over that the Bible doesn’t say that. My Asian Christian wife left me as she was very passionate and said she needed sex. I am a saved Bible believer but I am not a “Christian ” … 90% of people that call themselves a Christian are full of BS. They are liars. The few times I have been cheated in biz was a Christian.
I am suspicious of the man’s intentions. Within three months he is intimate in a new relationship AND recalls that he is a devout Christian? Is the woman’s bank account healthier than his? Move on from him ASAP!
Many things don’t change with age. As a women we want to care for others. This goes into all our relationships. At our older age we have to stop ourselves. Most of us need to now direct our energy to ourselves. It’s time for ourselves.
If any relationship requires you to conform and help them you need to runaway.
“He wants me to watch sermons to understand and come around to his religious beliefs.” That doesn’t sound good, because it probably won’t end with his attitudes toward sex.
As hard as it may be she should move on. I respect his decision but she has a right to have a complete relationship with a man. At 70, I am not sure I agree with abstaining unless married.
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that third man has found another partner he prefers and wants to let the reader down gently (though she may not find his method gentle). Whether or not that’s the case, the reader would do well to thank this man for their time together and move on. The reader is right: We don’t have time to waste – on a situation that will not improve.
Your spot on Joan. Several years ago, I had a 65 yo widowed friend who ended up marrying due to his religious beliefs, exactly the same as this man. Ended up divorced within the year. Their values were not similar when it came to intimacy and religion.
For readers here who use Facebook, there’s quite a discussion going about this column on my “Naked at Our Age with Joan Price” Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/JoanPriceAuthor/posts/pfbid0K3Kje24SLjsa2SDW2oVLcAWTCbRC5DJSzmrz7kkNTVGkbJZZeedLE3VzwSEzEMRyl . (I hope posting this link is permitted.)
I totally agree with Joan.
I lost my (second) wife and soul mate in 2022 and have been exploring life as a single for over a year. I’ve had several relationships lasting 1-3 months. All wonderful women.
What I’ve seen is that as much as we fall for someone and WANT it to work, there are a lot of moving parts. We need to be on the same page sexually. We also need compatible dreams and desired lifestyle.
You both will need to meet each other more than halfway for this to work.
This happened to me in 1985. My widowed friend of 9 years had joined a fundamentalist Christian church, persuaded by her son. They had prayed over to seek forgiveness for fornicating. We were already booked on a camping holiday abroad. Her daughter persuaded her to go and I took two tents. She started having nightmares and eventually decided to join me in my tent but on a platonic basis. When we got back home the church spirited her away. Later she ended up in a mental hospital. So sad.
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